Last year, one of the more ridiculous arguments we, as a community, had on this blog was the whole ' Who's better: Pierre Garcon or Anthony Gonzalez?
Never mind that Garcon had clearly booted Gonzo from his starting job , and anyone who closely followed the Colts knew that Gonzo had next to zero chance of getting that job back. Garcon was given the starting job during training camp. This irked Gonzo because, in his own words, someone had mislead him about being able to truly compete for the job. Gonzo then got hurt in Week One of the season just as he had done in Meanwhile, Garcon started 14 games, caught 67 passes, and scored six touchdowns.
All those numbers were career highs. And if you follow Pro Football Focus , the pass catching numbers for Garcon look even worse. On the flip side, the guy who could very well be ranked as one of the top wideouts in football, statistically, isn't Andre Johnson , DeSean Jackson , or Reggie Wayne.
According to PFF's ranking system which is not perfect or objective, but a system worth discussing , Collie ranks 14th in the entire NFL drops percentage. Meanwhile, Pierre Garcon ranked as the fourth worst wideout in terms of drop percentage at So, between Garcon and Gonzo, it seems the best wideout is actually Austin Collie.
Be happy that she is retrieving at all, as mine didn't tend to get into that game for a couple more months. I've tried the 2 ball thing Only problem is, she still won't come close. Won't come close if I have treats either If I run the opposite way, she drops the ball and chases me. If I try to wait her out she just starts playing with the ball herself.
With my older dog she did a similar thing but if I turned my back and waited she brough it closer. I just can't remember how old she was when I did that kind of stuff with her as its been 13 years.
I'm hoping as she matures she will be more driven to get me to throw it again. She saw some mallard ducks on the ground a month or so ago and started staring and stalking them. I'd be interested to see what she thinks of sheep. I would backchain this by teaching dropping the ball in my hand, Just teach that and give it a command, then start small in the house teaching drop the ball in your hand and gradually give it more space.
My dog generally brings the ball back within 10feet throws it at me and waits giving the ball "eye" , I give her the "give it to me" command and she picks it up and puts it in my hand.
I had one like that. Had to condition, with two toys and it took some time that she had to let me one, touch her first. And two, along with that rather than stopping her, keep her moving around me. Was a bit of trial and error but did work. Oh, and you may want to back it up in the beginning with a long line. Not to bring her in but to keep her from actively moving away. Listen, it could be a lot worse.
Dexter lays down between my legs or somewhere nearby, and launches out like a barracuda to grab the ball another dog has dropped in front of me. Twice in the last 24 hours he's bitten my foot when he mistimed his lunge; nearly took off my big toe last night!
Sometimes it helps to have your dog play fetch with a to-hand retriever. Especially if you take the other dog's returns and do a feint to start them away and throw the ball to a spot where the other dog will be likely to get it first. Your dog will soon get tired of being "out of the loop" and may begin to bring the ball in.
Another ploy I've used is to pretend not to see the ball and wander about saying "Where's the ball? Are you blind? My first dog i compete with in obedience trials and herding trials Chair out.
Ball and hand full of treats in chair I also taught him Heel position seperatly If you let him kinda do his own thing he will do his wacky ball herding all day Another thing I have done with him is timed his herding behavior a bit I can tell exactly when he is thinking about dropping the ball to early and if I give him a verbal correction or tell him to hold it he will be like "oh ya, sorry om forgot With my other older dog I bought recently and taught to fetch I don't care as much I spent alot of patient time on the couch just NOT throwing the ball until he brought it all the way to me One thing that can work well, and quickly, for dogs like this is to teach them to nose target the palm of your hand.
Then transfer to cuing the hand target outside during toy games. It sounds like you have a great "drop it" already, so once she comes in close to target you can vary when she does so and you take off running as a reward, with when she does so and you just cue her to drop it for another throw. I had the same problem, minus your circling issue up until recently with my 2 year old BC. When he was a pup 6mo to 1yr he would do it all the time and drop without giving a drop command the frisbee about 6 feet away and just look at me in the crouch position.
I would command him to "get it" until it was about an arms length away. Sometimes it would take 3 to 4 "get it " commands. As he got older it was less frequent, sometimes, I have to use the "get it" command, but rarely. Now he drops it at my feet almost every time.
Gloria, thanks for this explanation -- Brodie behaved exactly the same way -- now, I know why. It doesn't make sense to him! Because Ken loves to play ball with the dogs, I did eventually teach him "fetch" by putting him on a lead, tossing him the ball and when he caught it, giving him a tug and calling "Come.
I have a different problem. Jude wants nothing to do with fetch. I can throw a ball or other object he's interested in, and he will wait for it to fall, then go after it, almost like he's trying to track it instead of retrieve it.
Then once he gets to it, he'll either leave it or chew on it.
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